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teppo
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![[*]](./images/xpsilver/default_icon.gif) posted on 12-7-2008 at 11:43 |
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Kepa, I agree.
We would still need some bigger players, with the initial capital needed, to start the project. After that there would no problems getting a lot of
small investors along. I hope there is someone still working on this, and that it is not too late.
Anyone, any news?
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maakrapu
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| posted on 12-7-2008 at 12:59 |
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There was up-to-date information on Suomi24.fi forum that breakage of Finnjet has already started. According to user "Originaali_mikko" a local
eyewitness has told that the ship seems to be quite high up on the beach and yesterday there was workers carrying out carpets, furniture, equipment
and other stuff that can be sold.
http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=111&conference=4500000000...
Ps. I found this on Flickr, maybe someone from here? http://www.flickr.com/groups/finnjet/
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Mathias
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| posted on 12-7-2008 at 14:14 |
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I heard that the interiors are still untouched and there are actually still negotiations in progess which prevent the breakers from starting too
quickly...
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Cornelia
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| posted on 12-7-2008 at 18:37 |
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I have been following this here for a while, and I must admit, it's a pity. Would have booked immediatelly, if the ship had started business as a
cruiseliner.
So, all what stays are good memories ? I don't know.
I travelled by Finnlines Hansa-Class and as well Star-Class to Helsinki in February, and I must say, these ships have surprised me, comfy, good food
and very stylish. Met a few people onboard, who were previously working onboard Finnjet, and everyone thought back with good memories.
Unfortunatelly I have never been onboard the Finnjet after it had it's great renovation.
Don't know, what else to say, so it is best to say thank you for all who keep us updated here !
With greetings from Switzerland,
Cornelia
http://www.ferriesofeurope.fotopic.net/
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bigbuddy
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Still fighting for her!
Hope that everybody does so!
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bigbuddy
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| posted on 15-7-2008 at 21:09 |
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Hello everybody!
We need few more investors more for the Turku-project!
Any idea is welcome!
Jetti can still be refloated and the scrapping process hasn't started yet.
Nevertheless we shouldn't lose sight of the other ideas such as the Helsinki-project.
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dieselman
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| posted on 16-7-2008 at 07:39 |
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Please contact Mr Björn Wahlroos. CEO of Sampo Group. He is living in Halikko, 50km south from Turku
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timetime
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| posted on 19-7-2008 at 22:07 |
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I have had a dream that Finnjet would be a floating (budget) hotel in Riga, Latvia (many alternatives from cheap inside cabins to spacious commodore).
Maybe summer times some cruises to Stockholm and Helsinki from there. In the car deck there would be enormous night club (reasonable price standard),
which would be suitable, because Riga’s proper clubs are sooo expensive.
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Cornelia
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| posted on 19-7-2008 at 23:31 |
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Well, I am not sure whether you are familiar with Hamburg, Landungsbrücken and the Elbe River. At Landungsbrücken there is only place for one
museumship, the one and only Cap San Diego http://www.capsandiego.de - of course a
well-known landmark there, not just an museum-ship but as well hotel, exhibition center, it can be rented out for parties and even has a small
original pool (believe it or not, cargoships had, and still have - small pools usually filled with seawater).
Anyways, not any mooring spaces on River Elbe for this type of bigger ships, if you are familiar with Museumshafen Övelgönne you know what sizes of
ships there are, and that it's crowded already.
Unless you have a bit better contacts than I do have, in Hamburg and know something that none of us who are just a bit familiar with this city, know
:-) Then, please share, of course !
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Cornelia
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| posted on 20-7-2008 at 14:20 |
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Hehe, you do have good humour saying that the Elbe River is wide enough. There is more discussion about making it wider, as well deeper - increase of
size of the ships is of course, the reason and the sizes of Euro and TEU rule all of course. The ship you have pictured does not really say anything,
as it's about one of the smallest containerships around there, one of Team-Lines' containerfeederships, which trade Scandinavia and the Baltic -
including Finland of course. These ships are never the reason for the below, but the big traders from China and the likes are. An example, here two of
these beauties:
http://i33.tinypic.com/24mermr.jpg
Here a part of an article, which explains probably better than I can do:
"Nun ist eine erneute Elbvertiefung geplant, die siebte seit 1850: Für Containerschiffe mit einem Konstruktionstiefgang von 14,50 m muss die
Unterelbe nach Einschätzung der Stadt Hamburg an vielen Stellen verbreitert und vertieft werden. Dies bedeutet an einigen Stellen nochmals einen
Abtrag von über 2,20 m. Insgesamt fallen bei diesem Projekt 38 Millionen m³ Baggergut an: Also fast die dreifache Menge wie bei der letzten
Elbvertiefung vor 6 Jahren. Die umfangreichste Verbreiterung (um hier eine Begegnung der großen Schiffe zu ermöglichen) wird es zwischen Tinsdal und
Blankenese geben. Hier wird die Fahrrinne von 250 m auf 385 m erweitert."
Link from: http://vorort.bund.net/hamburg/Baumassnahmen.122.0.html
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Cornelia
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Well, you simply won't have the superbig ships meeting in the River Elbe because if there arrive too many they will be told to anchor at a specific
area outside of the Elbe River. Same goes for, when all terminals are occupied.
Things aren't anymore as they used to be in the 80ies, of course ! More and more shipping, if you look the schedules and terminals too. Though, the
workers there have good trade-unions, no matter how much there is, and unless the shipping company is willing to pay extra-much, they don't work on
Sundays.
So, if you wait for big ships - don't choose a Sunday for that 
I'll be in Hamburg next weekend and can report, on demand.
http://www.delphis.be/schedules/upload/teamlines/schedule.pdf?id=6bdqgr64zrnf...
And, look your blue/green supercontainership "Annaland" is also scheduled for HH  !
Meanwhile, this here has gone a bit off course and ok, I'm also waiting for news.
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bigbuddy
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| posted on 21-7-2008 at 21:45 |
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What's up? She hasn't been touched by the breaker yet and she can still be refloated!
We have to go on fighting! Now!
I tried to get in contact with Hamburg today...
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mikael
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| posted on 21-7-2008 at 21:53 |
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Buddy I agree with you 100 % I do all my best but without any sensefull result it makes no sense to post any thing.
I hope my friend of the SIMT in shanghai has an idea what we could do
or every german guy could go on the road and ask everybody for one euro to save jetti in germany you are over 80 million people that would be enough
to get her back to europe. 
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LetzterDetektiv
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| posted on 22-7-2008 at 00:14 |
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Just came across this:
http://luxurysealiving.com/ships.aspx
Does anyone know anything more on this?
Quote: "At Cruise Condo Communities, we convert recently retired ships to Private Luxury Yacht Condos, adding all the latest amenities. You step into
a world of the refinement you deserve, an exclusive community with peers of similar interest."
Page seems to be from 2006, has anyone ever come across this before?
Edit: As this is technically not news, can someone move it to a more appropriate thread maybe?
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teppo
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| posted on 29-7-2008 at 10:51 |
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Does anyone know what is the status now? Any success?
I think many of us are still holding our breath.
I don't think the empty or partly dismantled ship would be worth saving. The price of the refit would be too high because work is expensive. In the
last refit, they spent about 100 man labor years, multiply that by 50.000 eur... and that doesn't even include any materials. Any customisation would
make the price even higher.
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Tonne
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| posted on 29-7-2008 at 12:42 |
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Let's hope for the best, but …
It's a shame that media haven't reported anything about Finnjet since last week in June, when Finnjet arrived at the beach in Alang. I think that
there would have been a greater interest to save her, if the media wouldn’t have started the rumours about her condition "A worthless peace of crap”
and that this was Finnjets final destination. If we would have got media behind us we could have collected more money from the public.
My conclusion is that politicians and the newspaper Turun Sanomat weren’t interested to get Finnjet to Turku because it would have had a negative
effect on the price of the planned houses on the former Wärtsilä shipyard (none would pay enormous sums of money to for a view over an old scrappy
ship).
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bigbuddy
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| posted on 29-7-2008 at 22:52 |
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My newest information say: She's not finally beached yet and the fight still goes on!
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Cornelia
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| posted on 1-8-2008 at 16:02 |
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Well, as I said, I have contacted the breakers, and I have got their answer today:
I do not think that they'd have any reason to tell a lie, they are the shipowners, and they could have either scrapped it, or sold it at a good
price. I guess for them, their business and money counts.
This is the newest info I have, from today morning, and comes straight from Rishi shipbreakers.
MR. KLIER / RISHI,
THE VESSEL HAS BEEN BEACHED FOR SCRAPPING.
REGARDS!!
RISHI SHIP BREAKERS
45-ARCADIA,
NARIMAN POINT,
MUMBAI-400020.
MOB-0091-9867221451
FAX (OFF)- 0091-22-2-2821489
TEL- 91-22-2821197
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bigbuddy
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| posted on 1-8-2008 at 20:06 |
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@ Cornelia:
No one here ever did contradict the fact that she was beached by her own power on 19th June in order to scrap her soon.
The thing is that the final beaching (which is usually done with the help of winches) has not been done until now. From her current position she can
still be refloated.
The next thing I want to correct is the claim that Finnjet is completely owned by Rishi Ship Breakers. As far as I know by now there are several
owners.
Just for the sake of completeness.
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Jeroen
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| posted on 1-8-2008 at 23:58 |
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yeah well I think also the ship is not a property now of RSB.
Probably it belongs to a bank, or a financial or capital-holder.
RSB cuts the steel (as far is know a job of 8+ months approx. until the last keelplate is reached) and sells to the big steel corporations, and with
that money RSB will pay the owners in parts for instance, with a margin/profit for RSB self ofcourse.
But this e-mail message reply above as posted by cornelia looks like a kind of short 'autoreply' message.
"It's beached for scraping..." and that's it. Well I had could tell you that to..
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Cornelia
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Well, I am not sure whether it was auto-reply or not, I asked them first, whether the ship is beached already and got back as an answer, that the ship
is beached. I wanted to know a bit more, whether it is in a condition that it could be refloated or whether the ship is going surely to be scrapped.
Now, the answers have been a bit short, apart from that they mistook me with a "mister" which i am not, the short replies did answer my questions.
I just was very puzzled here, that there are so many plans made, about the ship here and there, and Turku and elsewhere, while nobody seemed to stay
in close contact with the breakers company !! I found this really odd, and strange so I simply looked their addresss up and asked about the ship
"Kingdom" in plot nr. 109. I was not sure that I do get ANY answer after all, as of course for them it is a waste of time to answer such questions,
if you don't have anything to buy or sell from them.
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bigbuddy
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| posted on 2-8-2008 at 15:46 |
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As far as I remember the contacts I had with Mr. Saarikangas he told me that bringing her to Espoo - not Turku - wouldn't be feasible.
The problem with the Pansio-moorage is that it is located next to an oil refinery which is really to a nice place to be. To use the vessel as an
accommodation with restaurants and events taking place it needs to be located very close to the town centre.
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ox266
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| posted on 3-8-2008 at 01:33 |
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Guys, a new member here. I have been on Jetti just once, and it was great. Travemünde-HEL, summer schedule, full 33 knots and a pitiful, overpriced
inside cabin.
But we all need a reality check, please! She's at least halfway beached at <b>Alang, India</b> as we speak.
Operating her on turbines woule be like operating a fleet of B737-200 on Finnair domestic instead of Embraer 170/190 jets. A suicide in other words
for those who have no idea of aviation.
Diesel engines are economical... sure. Gives 18 knots speed to Jetti. And not enough power to some propellors. MV Prince/Princess of Scandinavia are
MV Moby Drea/Otta these days. They do 27 knots on diesel. and eat 550 cars if Moby is to be believed... they claim Tommy takes 1000... 
Finnjet on GTS is a suicide with current fuel prices. With current diesels, it's obsolete in speed and performance.
Guys, wake up. Martin Saarikangas himself apparently said it all above....
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bigbuddy
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| posted on 3-8-2008 at 08:41 |
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@ ox266:
First of all: welcome to the forum.
We all are aware of the fact that operating Jetti with gas-turbines is no more economical.
But no one here tries to get her back in service.
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Jeroen
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| posted on 5-8-2008 at 00:39 |
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I think Rotterdam showed today we can call ourselves lucky.
After almost 50 years, she passes in R'dam port for the last time, back homewards to her final berth, the yard and slipway where she was launched, as
named Rotterdam, with homeport Rotterdam.
It must at least be inspiration, and shows it's not impossible, to the involved Finish partys who can have the benefits of a similar set up. I hope
& pray for that !!
grtz. Jeroen.
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